Ryan Callaghan - MeatEater's Director of Conservation and a national board member of Backcountry Hunters & Anglers. Ryan grew up out West hunting, fishing and, guiding and has been passionate about the outdoor community ever since. Join us for a conversation about our public lands and why selling them would take away from more than just bowhunters. Ryan talks about how he got connected with MeatEater, his experiences with conservation, and more! Follow along: Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/cameronrhanes Twitter: https://twitter.com/cameronhanes Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/camhanes/ Website: https://www.cameronhanes.com Follow Ryan Callaghan: https://www.instagram.com/olcal406/  Thank you to our sponsors: Sig Sauer: https://www.sigsauer.com/ use code CAM10 for 10% off optics Ketone IQ: https://www.ketone.com/Cam use code CAM for 30% off your first subscription MUD\WTR: https://mudwtr.com/cam use code CAM for 15% off  Grizzly Coolers: https://www.grizzlycoolers.com/ use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% off Black Rifle Coffee: https://www.blackriflecoffee.com/ Use code KEEPHAMMERING for 20% your first order Timestamps: 00:00:00  Why People Call Ryan “Ol Cal” 00:01:53  Ryan’s Education 00:08:26  How Ryan Got Connected with MeatEater 00:18:37  Steve Rinella: Wild Within TV Show 00:23:31  Missouri Breaks: Joe Rogan’s First Buck 00:26:10  Conversation as a Tool 00:27:21  Conservation in Clothing Lines 00:32:18  Ad Break (Ketone IQ & MUD\WTR) 00:34:36  First Elk Hunters Ryan Guided 00:37:06  First Lite’s Correlation with Public Land 00:41:00  The Threat of Selling Public Lands 00:52:36  Speculations Behind Senator Mike Lee’s Motivation 00:55:21  The Appreciation of the Outdoors 00:57:55  The Volume of Calls to the Senator 01:09:01  “Hidden” Threats to Public Lands 01:14:12  Land Biden Attempted to Sell 01:16:54  The Government's Intentions Behind “Affordable” Housing 01:21:13  Spreading the Word with Social Media 01:22:59  Takeaways from the Recent Public Land Dispute 01:26:34  Consumers in the City VS Independent People in the West 01:31:11  Trusted 3rd Party People & Resources 01:34:36  Sons of Smokey Non-Profit 01:39:10  Animal Migration in Value Land Segments 01:42:33  Lack of Early Engagement in Selling Public Lands 01:51:16  The Negatives that Come with Politics 01:53:17  Weighing in to Make a Difference 01:59:53  Shared Passion for the Mountains 02:02:37 Outro Badass Raptor Giveaway: https://cameronhanes.com/pages/hennesseyraptor