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The beauty of the American political project is in spite of the pluralism of this republic, of this society,

we try to scale that and implement that in our federal and state laws.

My point is we haven't lost that because we haven't lost

human nature. And so even though there are many challenges to reestablishing ordered liberty,

I actually think it's well within our grasp to do so even in this decade.

This is your host, Scott Bertram. Welcome to the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, part of the

Hillsdale College Podcast Network.

That was Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation. More at heritage.org.

Also author of the new book, Dawn's Early Light, Taking Back Washington to Save America.

We go in-depth today on the book with Kevin Roberts. Kevin, thanks so much for

joining us. Scott, it's my pleasure. Thank you. Very early, I think in the introduction of Dawn's

early light, Kevin, you say this work, this book is meant to help restore a shared vision of a

glorious future for our country. Why are you optimistic that can be done despite the deep

divisions in our country? I think the most recent election that we've had, which is top of mind

for everyone, is indicative of why I'm optimistic. And some of your audience, not entirely wrong,

we will think it's because of the

outcome. But I mean something deeper than that, and it is that ultimately you can summarize

Donald Trump's victory or the reasons behind that as a majority of Americans believing that the

American dream is slipping away from them.

And what is interesting, and at least in the present tense, it's a little challenging right now, Scott,

is that that's true.

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