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The Times Tech Podcast

Kettle's Nat Manning: "Insuring the 'biblical stuff'"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Technology, Business Analysis, Silicon Valley, Interviews, Tech, News, Artificial Intelligence, Ai, Business, Business News

4.8676 Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2021

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on Nat Manning, founder of Kettle, to talk about how climate change is upending insurance (5:00), the role of reinsurers as “the second parachute” (10:40), updating risk models with machine learning (14:45), building a better mousetrap (20:30), how meditation lent clarity (28:0), getting into disaster relief (31:30), the long tail of suffering (33:00), starting Kettle (37:40), getting rejected by Y Combinator (42:20), raising money (44:35), the clash between regulators and the industry (47:00), and the opportunity (51:20).

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0:00.0

Yo, technology. What is it all about? Last year was the third worst year in history. So about

0:08.3

4% of the state burned last year. However, 11,466 structures burned out of 14 million structures in

0:16.7

California. That's less than 0.1%. So while it feels like the whole state is burning, at the same time, the actual chances

0:25.4

of a fire burning down your house are in the third worst year in history, you know, less

0:31.8

than 0.1%. Hello and welcome to Danny in the Valley, your weekly dispatch from behind the scenes and inside the minds of the top people in tech.

0:50.5

I'm your host, Danny Fortson.

0:52.2

Thank you for tuning in this week.

0:55.2

Get ready, people.

0:56.8

We're talking about insurance.

1:02.4

Please, I hope you didn't just pass out from boredom like I just did.

1:06.7

No, no, no.

1:07.4

I joke, I joke.

1:08.4

I assure you, this is not your daddy's insurance we're talking about.

1:12.7

Because what we'll actually really be talking about is climate change and what it is doing to the insurance industry.

1:19.7

So the number of mega disasters has tripled in the last 15 years just in the U.S. alone.

1:26.1

And that has just completely upended one of the world's largest and oldest industries.

1:32.5

And not surprisingly, perhaps, there's a whole bunch of young Turks who have been watching this play out

1:38.1

and have decided to jump in to really try to shake things up.

1:41.6

And among them is Nat Manning, who is this week's guest. Now Manning is the

1:46.7

co-founder of a company called Kettle. They're based out here. It's just over a year old. They've

1:51.3

raised just short of $30 million. And what they're doing is basically turning machine learning

1:57.4

algorithms loose. I'm looking particularly at wildfire risk and how to come up with a better

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