High Fidelity's Philip Rosedale: "The trouble with building the metaverse"

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Unknown, Technology

4.9 • 654 Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2021

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The Sunday Times’ tech correspondent Danny Fortson brings on High Fidelity’s Philip Rosedale to talk about virtual worlds before the Internet (4:00), founding Second Life (8:00), capturing the zeitgeist (11:00), Second Life today (16:05), the current metaverse hype (20:10), the challenge of living a virtual life (23:10), the folly of the “hybrid” workplace (29:20), the dangers of virtual life (31:30), the importance of business model (35:00), the hardware challenges (39:30), and of augmented reality (44:00), tech’s misunderstanding of human behaviour (47:10), the dystopic idea that yielded the metaverse (51:00), and Burning Man in the time of Covid (59:40).

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0:00.0	Yo, technology.
0:02.9	What is it all about?
0:04.5	With respect to virtual worlds, if you choose to go into one and present yourself as an avatar there,
0:10.9	you're sort of faced with a what ends up being, in retrospect, I didn't think this at the beginning,
0:16.0	what ends up being a pretty binary choice, which is you can either be the real you,
0:19.7	like the one that's sitting on the couch in front of me right now, or you can be that avatar, but you can't be both.
0:25.9	Hello, and welcome to Danny in the Valley.
0:38.3	Thank you guys for tuning in.
0:40.8	We are in the car together right now.
0:42.7	I'm on my way to interview Philip Rosedale.
0:47.8	He is the founder of Lyndon Lab or the company you may have heard of.
0:53.6	Second Life, if you're of a certain age
0:55.7	anyway.
0:56.1	Second Life is the original, the OG Metaverse Company.
1:01.3	And I wanted to talk to him because everybody from Mark Zuckerberg to Satya Nadella at
1:07.4	Microsoft, Roblox, everybody's talking about how the the metaverse is the next big thing in the internet.
1:13.6	This is the future.
1:15.5	A world in which we all live in these kind of virtual worlds.
1:18.6	We're represented by avatars.
1:20.2	We live online.
1:21.5	We make money online.
1:22.8	We have our whole avatar life online.
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