Tic-Toc, abortion, IVF.

Three of the biggest issues roiling American politics right now,

and Kelly Ann Conway is in the middle of all three of them.

You will remember that Kelly Ann has been advising Donald Trump and Mike Pence for years,

but lately she's been best known for urging the GOP to leave Tik-Toc alone and moderate the party message on reproductive rights.

I had a spirited conversation with Kelly Ann this week at Politico's Health Care Summit, where we did our first live taping of this show.

I'm Ryan Liza, and this is Playbook Deep Dive.

Kellyanne, welcome, thank you for doing this.

Thank you for having me.

Thank you everyone.

Just to set the stage for our conversation,

we're headed into a rematch between former President Trump

and President Joe Biden.

And the politics of health care

will be central in this campaign.

And whoever wins this election, health care policy will surely be central to the next White House.

Killian, you were President Trump's campaign manager, his counselor in the White House, and you are also in

charge of some aspects of health care policy in the White House, and you've been doing an

enormous amount of work in this political cycle on health care

strategizing in politics so I can't think of a better person to help us figure out

politics and policy of health care in in 2024.

But before we get to all of that, I do want to talk about

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