Hello and welcome to a new series of Legacy. Afwa, tell me what we're going to talk about today.

Well, actually, this is funny because people listening don't know this, I suppose, but usually

when we get on, we get set up, we get our mics and our headphones all checked out. We usually do

a sound test by asking each other what we have for breakfast, right? That's the classic thing we do

before we go on air. So, Peter, what did you

have for breakfast today? I was going to ask you, we've asked each other that question. I don't know

how many, I'm probably a hundred times. Can you ever remember what it is that I've said? Because I'm

scratching my head off the. I do remember what you've said very emphatically. Do you normally

have cheer seeds? Legacy followers,

Peter Frankapan is a sausage, eggs and bacon man. That's not true. A number of times.

Oh my God. I said, Peter, what do you have for breakfast? You'd be like, eggs, bacon, beans.

I know what that means. I've got to get on the Wagovia, the Ezenpick. Oh, my Lord.

No, there's no full English breakfast shaming on this show. And then I say I had, I've actually stopped doing cheer seeds because of some new research that suggests they might actually not be as good as I thought they were. These days, I'm on the flax with some added B vitamins and protein, some cacao collagen,

almond milk smoothies for my breakfast. Yeah, I am fully faddish and we'll get to that. But the

reason that we're asking each other what we have for breakfast after we've done the sound check is because today we are talking about arguably the godfather of the modern breakfast.

That's right. We're talking about Kellogg's in general, but John Harvey and William Keith Kellogg in particular.

Do you have a favourite cereal? When you were young after,

you kind of always being on flax and chia seeds. Did you, did you head for the cocoa pops or the

crunchy nut corn flakes? I was a hardcore crunchy nut corn flakes, Dan, as a child. And then I went to America

for the first time as a teenager and discovered Pop-Tarts. Oh my God. And people who are younger might not get this,

but like in the 90s, all of these were things that we saw on TV but couldn't actually get in the UK.

So being able to go and eat a Pop-Tart, it just felt like the height of sophistication. It felt like

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