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The Rise of the Nazis | How Disease and Religion Paved the Way for Evil | 2

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🗓️ 27 November 2025

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Germany’s crises didn’t end with Versailles — they mutated. Hyperinflation, political extremism, spiritual panic, and a pandemic all collided to push an obscure drifter named Adolf Hitler toward power. This episode shows how a broken society helped unleash a catastrophe.


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0:00.0

Hello, welcome to Legacy. Today we're continuing with our look at the terrible legacies of the First World War.

0:06.4

Last time we looked at how horrors on the front lines and the cold realities of the economics of war

0:11.8

had first led to devastating military defeat and then to a catastrophic post-war settlement for Germany.

0:19.2

The war was imposed at Versailles, but also in other parallel talks at Triano, had deep

0:24.6

legacies that still scar not just Germany, but the world today.

0:29.1

The creation of a swath of states across the Middle East, pieces of Europe that had never

0:34.0

been joined together rammed into single entities like Yugoslavia. And some of the

0:38.9

supposed victors were left with grievances too, Peter. Yeah, so I was reading about how the Italian

0:44.6

Prime Minister is reduced to tears because his country is not being treated as it should be.

0:50.5

Italy were on the side of the Allies, but weren't given what they'd been promised.

0:59.0

And that anger helps fuel the rise of fascism and of Mussolini. And I'm sure we're going to look at him too. But today we're continuing our look at the rise of the Nazis and to see how

1:04.6

some of that tinder that has been laid is going to catch fire. I think this is an interesting

1:09.9

subject for us to tackle Peter,

1:11.3

but not for the reasons you'd expect. So I can't think of a better documented and more

1:16.6

frequently discussed period of history than the Nazis and Hitler. And actually the grievance I

1:22.0

had with history education in Britain for a lot of my life was that it was so obsessed with

1:26.6

the rise of the Nazis, with the

1:27.9

Second World War, that it completely neglected basically everything else we've ever discussed.

1:32.9

You know, if you've listened to Legacy, when we've done Napoleon, we've done Marianne,

1:36.1

we've done Haiti and colonialism, we've done the civil rights movement, we've done so many things,

1:42.1

we've done Kuomer and decolonization.

1:45.4

These are all things that were not part of my history education because most of it was so

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