From the historic campus of Hillsdale College in Hillsdale, Michigan, where the good, the true, and the beautiful are taught, nurtured, and honored, this is the Radio Free Hillsdale Hour, bringing the activity and education of the college to listeners

across the country. The difference between a political education and a politicized education

is getting lost. There are parents all over the country concerned that their children are being

taught a politicized or even an activist

way of thinking about their participation as citizens.

This is your host Scott Bertrand.

And that's Dr. Kathleen O'Toole, Assistant Provost for K-12 education here at Hillsdale College.

She's our first guest on today's program. We'll ask

Dr. O'Toole to define for us what exactly is American classical education. Dr. O'Toole,

thanks for joining us. Hey, thanks for having me. And the topic of our conversation today centers

around the question, what is American classical education? Emphasis on the American.

Something that makes us very American is our politics, our political system. I think a big question

we should we should tackle is should we be teaching about those politics in school? And perhaps first, what do we mean

by politics in this educational setting? Yes, right. And that is such an important question,

because education is becoming so political right now. I cannot think of a time in my own lifetime, maybe the last

two or three generations, when education was more of an issue in the news. And what we're, what

we're seeing in the news is that the difference between a political education and a politicized education is getting lost.

Um,

there are parents all over the country concerned that their children are being taught

a politicized or a,

um,

even an activist way of,

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