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I think history doesn't just remind us of the ways in which people of the past didn't live up to our present-day standards.

It reminds us, it should remind us, that the same fate awaits us. We look hard at ourselves.

This is your host, Scott Bertrand. And that's Dr. Wilfred McLeigh, Victor Davis-Hansson

chair in classical history and Western civilization at Hillsdale College. He's also the author of

Land of Hope and Invitation to the Great American Story. And he's also the winner of a Bradley Prize this year.

We'll talk with Dr. McLeigh about his approach to history and why it's so important.

Dr. McLean, thanks so much for joining us.

Oh, Scott, it's a pleasure.

We talk with you in the wake of a very nice honor that you've received from the Bradley Foundation.

You've received a Bradley

prize, which, to quote them, is honoring those who restore, strengthen, and protect the

principles and institutions of American exceptionalism. Tell us a little bit more about the Bradley

Prize, and why did they pick you? Well, you know, the last part of your question, I mean, that's God only knows.

Because the other two people I'll be on the stage with are genuine heroes.

Glenn Lowry, a really heroic and extremely independent African-American spokesman who never toes the party line. He struggles with

issues. He wrestles with issues of faith, but his honesty makes, it gives him enormous credibility.

And then Chen Guan Cheng, a real hero, a Solzhenitin-like figure in Chinese dissident politics.

So what am I doing up there?

But I'm very happy to have been the recipient.

It's something that, you know, they worded for a lot of different things.

In my case, I think it is because of Land of Hope, the book that you mentioned,

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