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Govzilla really talks about how we've just moved away from the idea of a limited federal government.

And now anytime there's a problem, whether it's COVID or inflation or whatever it is,

we turn to the federal government for solutions when,

in fact, usually it's the government that created the problem in the first place.

This is your host, Scott Bertrand. And that's Stephen Moore, former advisor to President Trump

and chief economist at Freedom Works. We'll talk with him in depth later on in the program

about his latest book, Govzilla, how the relentless growth of government is devouring our economy

and our freedom. But first, we're joined now by Dr. Paul Marino. He is chair of constitutional

history, professor of history and dean of social sciences here at Hillsdale College. Dr. Marino,

thanks for joining us. Thanks for having me. We enjoy having you on the program when we do

the history of segments. How was something you on the program when we do these, the history of segments.

How was something changed over the years? And recently and probably still in the public debate is this future of the filibuster.

And so we look at the history of the filibuster today in our talk. Is the filibuster, first of all, a purely American institution? Was it imported from

England? Do they have it in other governments? No, it goes back to ancient Rome. We have accounts

of filibustering in the Roman assemblies and in parliament before the American Revolution. So the

Americans founders were aware of this. There's a couple

of references in the Federalist papers to the problem of a sort of minority rule. And so certain

provisions were built into the Constitution for supermajorities on, you know, for particular

things, overriding vetoes and treaty ratification. We're all part of the bargaining at the

Constitutional Convention. So when do we see it begin to be used to America? Is it from the beginning?

Yeah, the story goes that it was in the very first Congress in the debate about where the capital

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