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Okay. So I am so honored, as always, to spend a little time talking with Kathy Lee Gifford.

Good morning, Kathy Lee.

Good morning, Martha.

It's so wonderful to be with you, as always.

And, you know, I wanted to, today is, you know, people are going to hear this all throughout the next week. But we're just in, towards the end of Holy Week.

And I am thinking about all of this a lot as we look towards Easter and what a joyous day that is.

Tell me a little bit about where your mind is this morning in this part of the process.

Oh, you know what?

It's always such a time of reflection.

And the older I get and the more I study God's word, I have been to Israel so many times

and been to all of those iconic, holy places.

The world is holy to me because God created it. But you know what I'm saying. There's sacred

places in our faith history. And I was thinking the other day about how when Jesus came down on the cult down that,

that road that is still there between the two parts of the Garden of Gassimony, descending from

Bethany down the Mount of Olives, and knowing that he would be crucified by Friday, and how he, how it says the rocks would cry out if the people didn't.

And I think about how all of creation today is crying out for redemption.

The world has never been so drenched in despair and blood, it seems to me. It is, and darkening, darkening, darkening.

And I think, but the light, nothing can put out the light. He came into the world. In fact,

Jesus wasn't born in December, but he was conceived in December during Hanukkah, the Festival of Lights.

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