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Okay. Okay, hi everybody.

It's Martha McCallum and The Untold Story.

And I'm really thrilled today to be joined by Allison Pataki,

who is a friend and a wonderful author,

New York Times bestselling author. She has written several books that really look at outstanding, fascinating lives of different women. The last one is

Cece. And Allison has written a new book called The Magnificent Lives of Marjorie Post.

Hi, Allison. Hi, Martha. Thanks for having me. It's great to be with you. As always. So I'm thrilled. The book came out on February 15th,

The Magnificent Lives of Marjorie Post. Tell me a little bit, I mean, I've always been fascinated

by her. I love the photographs of her from her heyday.

And so, you know, give everybody a sense of, you could write about any fascinating woman. So what made you zero in on Marjorie Maryweather Post?

Absolutely. So I'm not surprised you knew about her and have been fascinated by her with your,

you know, interest and your chops with history. But I will admit that when I first heard

the name Marjorie Maryweather Post six years ago, I did not know much about her at all. And I thought

post, I thought maybe, hmm, the Emily Post Manor's books or maybe a post newspaper.

I didn't really know the broad strokes of her story. But when I did first get the tip,

like, hey, this is this fascinating woman. This is the woman who built Mar-a-Lago. This is the woman

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