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Okay, slash claims. Hello and welcome to Hot Masterpiece Theater, the show where we analyze trash TV like serious art, because it is serious art.

I'm your host, comedian and culture critic Jolenta Greenberg, and here on Hot Masterpiece Theater, we talk about the stories told on reality TV,

because really they have the same themes, plots, and kinds of characters that all great

storytelling has, from Aristotle to Albi. Truly, reality TV has all the same bells and whistles

just with more Botox and filler, usually. As you know, here on Hot Masterpiece Theater,

I have on guests to talk about their favorite reality TV moments,

and you're going to love today's guests, so let's just get right into it.

Today, I am joined by an actor slash writer slash director slash podcaster.

She's incredible Jenny Donheiser.

She co-hosts the great podcast.

How Are You Brainwashed?

Her co-host is Nicole Spizio, friend of the show, other friend of the show.

How Are You Brainwashed?

As a great interview podcast where they talk to people about

unexpected ways they were brainwashed.

Like you wouldn't think a lot of these things would count as brainwashing, but they all do.

Hi.

Jenny, I'm so so excited to have you here.

You're the first person to bring the Real House

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