That's how she kind of views all of this, right?

It's a game.

And I think she assumes other people think it's a game and doesn't stop to think,

huh, why are all these executives talking to me?

Is it because of how smart I am?

Is it because of how brilliant I am?

Is it because of how much I get to the bottom of it and they appreciate these things?

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