People like sports gambling.

They're not concerned about the other problems in part because I think, you know, that's a part of the larger discussion we're having.

It's an atomization issue, right?

Gambling addiction is something that happens to other people.

But like the ultimate result here for me is a situation in which everything is being degraded. Hello and welcome to Tech Won't Save Us made in partnership with the Nation magazine.

I'm your host, Paris Marks.

And before we get into

this week's episode, just a reminder that this month, April, is our fourth birthday. You know,

it's four years of making this show from way back in the pandemic lockdown days to here

where we are today, more than 200 episodes into making the show. It's kind of incredible. And to celebrate that,

we are trying to get 200 new supporters, or if you're an existing supporter, you can upgrade

your tier of support over on patreon.com. And if we hit that goal, we are going to make a special

series digging into the AI hype of the past year and a half, the data centers that power

all of those AI tools, the increasing energy and water use and other resources that go into

making this, and the growing backlash that is happening to these technologies and to these data

centers in particular as larger and larger data centers are having to be built

in more and more parts of the world in order to power these computational tools that these

major tech companies want to roll out and that have major consequences that they do not want

us to think about. Ultimately, that leads us to ask how much computation do we really need

and is the amount that these tech companies are

trying to push on us the amount that we actually need to build a better world? I would say no,

and that's what this series will explore. Right now, we still have a bit of a ways to go in order

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