Hey everyone welcome back to the going scared podcast this is your host Jessica Honeger founder of the social impact fashion brand

Nune Day collection join me here every week for conversations on living lives of purpose by leaving comfort and going scared.

All right, this week we are joined by a difficult dialogue expert. His name is Justin Hale and he is a speaker, trainer,

designer, and master trainer at Vital Smarts, a Leadership Training Company

based on the works of the authors of Crucial Conversations.

If you've read my book, In Perfect Courage,

you know that that book, Crucial Conversations, was actually the launch pad for me to grow and how to have a dialogue.

And it was from reading that book that I began to see that I really just cared

about being right in a lot of my conversations instead of caring mainly about listening. That book sent me on a transformative journey and while the

authors have retired I was really thankful to get to have Justin Hale who has been mentored and trained by them to join us today.

And it is a really good conversation.

I think I like it so much because it's very practical.

He actually gives us a blueprint on how to have a difficult conversation.

Listen in. listening.

Well, thank you for hopping on. Well, thank you for hopping on.

I read the book,

Crucial conversations a few years ago, but it ended up being pretty critical in my life, and especially it came into my life, well, usually you find what you're needing at the time.

So I, my business partner and I were just having a hard time with dialogue and conversation.

And I remember, we actually ended up hiring a coach

trained in crucial conversations,

and he walked the book with us.

I mean that's how crucial ended up being in our lives

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