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Should I Delete That?

Just Us: Taylor Swift, Victoria Beckham and the suffering of being a woman

Should I Delete That?

Alex Light & Em Clarkson

Society & Culture, Unknown

4.81.2K Ratings

🗓️ 15 October 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

In the time since we last recorded a Just Us - Taylor Swift has released a new album. So today, our resident semi-swiftie (Em) guides our non-swiftie (Al) through The Life of a Showgirl and we discuss the noise and critique surrounding the album. 


Victoria Beckham has also released a Netflix documentary - we discuss the term ‘too posh to push’ which was popularised in 1999 when she gave birth to her son Brooklyn by c-section. Why do women equate parenthood with suffering - and do men feel the same? 


We’d love you to join the conversation - you can email us on [email protected] 


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Should I Delete That is produced by Faye Lawrence

Studio Manager: Elliott Mckay

Video Editor: Celia Gomez

Social Media Manager: Sarah English

Music: Alex Andrew


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hello, welcome back to Shoulda Delete That and Alex Light.

0:09.5

And I'm Emplexton.

0:10.6

How are we?

0:11.3

Yeah, I'm good. How are you?

0:12.7

You have fantastic nails.

0:14.7

Thanks. I didn't know where we were going. I never know. I'll brace myself for a comment.

0:20.2

Compliment.

0:24.1

You have. You have fantastic.

0:31.7

Nails. Thank you. They're tortoise shell. Yeah, they're very you. I love them. Do you know what? I did have them once a long time ago, but it literally took about three hours and I was like, I can't do that.

0:35.7

Yeah. Yeah. No, that's fine. But they are amazing. They are amazing. I'm too impatient to sit there, but I love them. Thank you. I appreciate you. You can just look at mine, pretend they're yours. Yeah. Do you know my gloves? They should do that. I don't know why they haven't. Like gloves that are like nails, like really tight ones to the skin. That's horrible. That's really horrible. Rule nothing out. We've got a lot to talk about. Loads. Well, I was away last week. I went to the Isle Man. But first time ever missed an interview. And I feel like I've been gone forever. And I feel guilt and I feel weird. And I feel like we've not done a just us, even though we literally did one like five minutes ago but things have happened whilst moved on yeah we did one quite recently but I get it had a new album out oh my god I am really excited to talk to you about this because go tell me why because can you remind me do you identify as a Swifty I can't remember whether you do or not. In the same way that I was

1:27.5

always scared to say that I was a vegan because I was scared of like other veg. I would probably say I'm scared to be a Swifty in case someone does that thing where it's like if you say I'm a football fan and they go, right, we'll name the 19-19-197 World Cup lineup. Who did a self-bench? Okay. Are you were semi-swifty. Yeah, like went to the gig last summer at the ERA's tour, absolutely loved it, got the friendship bracelets, know all the songs, can identify most of the albums. You're a Swifty? I know, but I would be, same reason. Like, I was basically vegan for 10 years. Wouldn't ever say it. I'm scared of the internet. So I refuse to identify. That is fair. The internet is scary. Okay, so as a semi-Swifty, yes. I need to hear. Okay, I want your opinion on the album. You can have it. That's quite interesting as someone who does like her previous music. You can have that. But I think more importantly, let's talk about the noise around the album.

2:17.9

That's what I'm more interested in.

2:19.4

No one gives a shit what I've got to say about the album.

2:21.1

No, I am.

2:21.9

I'm intrigued.

2:22.5

As a fan.

2:22.7

And I was like, I love hearing what people have got to say.

2:26.0

Yeah.

2:26.3

But before I say what I've got to say, I want to know as a non-fan.

2:29.5

Yeah.

2:29.7

Have you listened to it? I haven't. Oh my god, none of the songs. I mean, I've seen them pop up on Instagram and stuff, but... Do you not have any curiosity when they come up to be like, I wonder what all the hype's about? I'm going to listen to this album? No. Wow. Because, but this is the thing, like, just so you're scared to say that you're a swifty yeah i'm scared to say that i'm really

2:51.8

not like her music does not never has resonated with me at all but i feel like when i say that i feel i've become being like anti-feminist i'm being like misogynistic and it's because but i'm not i just being a pick me is that what you're scared of being picked me i'm not like other girls I don't like Taylor's.

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