You know, this whole business of sex trafficking, pornography, the internet, I mean, it's a multi-billion dollar industry. And I don't know the answer to trying to reel this in. I do know that the answer is not to take the officers that police this, you know, from the FBI and Homeland Security and put them

someplace else. The answer is to put more people on this problem.

Hi there, everybody. Welcome to this week's episode of the Best People podcast. This week's

guest is to the Epstein investigation, what Woodward and

Bernstein are to the Watergate investigation. She has blown every door open, and they weren't

doors that were left ajar. There were doors that were sealed shut, covered over, papered over,

until her intrepid reporting blew them open for the victims and for the

public and now for the entire country. Without any further ado, this is the best people and this is

Julie K. Brown. Thank you for being here. Thanks for having me. I'm such a fan, and your incredible reporting in the Miami Herald on Epstein has changed the weather.

I mean, it has changed everything that we think and feel about this story. And I wonder if you can just first

speak personally about what that is like. I try to stay grounded and focused, to be honest with

you. If I think too much up in the clouds, then I'm not really doing my job. I want to stay

focused on trying to continue to make people understand the importance of this story.

I still think there's a segment of the public

that do not understand how important this story is

in so many different ways.

So I've been trying to cover different aspects of it

so that people understand

because it is a huge story and a very complicated one.

I want to go back to the beginning and sort of how you blew open this sweetheart deal,

but I want to start with your most recent reporting because I think some of our best visibility

into how powerful people treated Jeffrey Epstein is from some of your most

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