how do you lead it's just not a formal position where you live in a special house with a parking

spot outside and a bunch of security agent you know to truly lead you have to exhibit character

you have to have emotions that that bring you into connecting i can't lead you unless i know what

motivates you so when you don't have those kinds of intellectual curiosities,

I don't understand how someone who's in a formal position can call themselves a leader when

their followers are not connecting those dots.

Hi, everyone. Welcome to this week's episode of The Best People podcast. Sometimes the universe

conspires to put the perfect person in this chair, the perfect moment. This is one of those weeks.

If I don't return is not just a book. It's a way to get through the moment in which we're living,

a moment in which we're covering a new war in the Middle

East, a moment in which we ask every day, our leaders, are deserving of the people they're

leading, including the ones that voted for them. It's also a moment, though, where everyone

should understand what it means when a president sends the country to war, takes the country to

war, and sends the men and women of our military into battle.

It is an honor to have Lieutenant General Mark Rettling here with your new book, if I don't return.

Thank you so much for being here.

It's a pleasure in those very kind words. Nicole, thank you so much.

I feel like we get to do a version of the best people concept every time you're on the TV

show.

So thank you so much for the extended opportunity to talk to you here.

I'm a little bit intimidated.

You've had some unbelievable people on this podcast.

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