Julia Michaels: Second Self
The Squeeze
Taylor Lautner
4.6 • 1.3K Ratings
🗓️ 2 July 2025
⏱️ 83 minutes
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Summary
In this week’s episode, Tay is back for another girl-talk conversation with Grammy-nominated singer-songwriter Julia Michaels! Julia opens up about how she met her fiancé and why being with someone outside of the music industry has brought a sense of balance to her life. She gets candid about her experience with anxiety and panic attacks—what they feel like, how they’ve evolved over time, and the tools that have helped her cope, including the support of her fiancé. Julia shares when she first started writing about her mental health in her music, what initially drew her to songwriting, and the moment she realized it could become a career. She reflects on her deep love for writing songs for other artists, why “Issues” became the one she kept for herself, and how the process continues to be therapeutic. Julia also talks about setting boundaries, going independent for her new EP Second Self, and what it means to finally own her music!
Be sure to follow Julia on https://instagram.com/juliamichaels/!
Listen to Julia’s new EP “Second Self” here: https://stem.ffm.to/secondself?fbclid=PAZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAaeXutMZEoxpgj82Hx-c4NFt6Z3afk-LRQyVojz7h3XnJCd96HIVvhEJnFd_bg_aem_GjgwLm1MbJ2KlrdSUjCJMw
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| 0:00.0 | The following podcast is a Dear Media production. |
| 0:04.9 | It started when I was like 18. |
| 0:09.0 | I just signed my first publishing deal. |
| 0:13.2 | I had always written songs because I just loved writing songs. |
| 0:18.2 | Hum things, write poetry, and then I would turn them into songs. |
| 0:22.6 | I didn't even know that that was a job. |
| 0:24.6 | Turn 18 and I signed that deal, it became very real. |
| 0:27.6 | Had this pressure to perform. |
| 0:30.6 | That just ate me up. |
| 0:34.6 | I had just a publisher that was like working me dry. |
| 0:38.3 | I would be in like three sessions a day, just be exhausted, like running off of like coffee |
| 0:42.9 | and barely any food. One day I just had like one of the scariest like panic attack that |
| 0:49.3 | I have ever had was in one of my friends' kitchens. We were writing songs and I just felt |
| 0:53.8 | my heart go crazy. |
| 0:55.9 | Dropped to the floor. |
| 0:57.2 | Couldn't catch my breath. |
| 0:58.2 | Didn't know what it was. |
| 0:59.5 | I thought I was dying. |
| 1:00.5 | My anxiety turned to panic attacks when I was, like, 21. |
| 1:03.4 | Good for You by Selena had come out and gone number one. |
| 1:06.3 | And then, sorry for Justin had gone number one. |
| 1:08.8 | And then hands to myself, had gone number one and then enhanced myself at gun number one. And it was like almost back to back to back. |
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