Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Coppelman. Thanks for listening. This is a really big deal for me.

More than almost any conversation I've had.

My guest today is Julia Cameron,

author of, among other things, the artist's way. I mean she's a successful

screenwriter and she writes musicals and she's written many many books but Julia

your your work comes up on this podcast and in my life all the time.

And I was saying to my wife earlier today, it doesn't just feel like I'm talking to a

force of nature, it feels like I'm talking to a force of nature it feels like I'm talking to nature itself and it would be hard to overstate the impact your work has had on my life. I could make a really credible statement that I wouldn't have the life

that I'm leading if it wasn't if it weren't for your book. It actively and

definitively changed my life.

And it's changed the lives of many of the listeners

of my podcast, too.

And I know you know that Tim Ferris on his podcast

talks about morning pages. I'm the person who told him about

morning pages because of what they meant to me and so I just want to start by

saying thank you and tell you how grateful I am for the work that you've done.

Well you're very welcome. you how grateful I am for the work that you've done.

Well, you're very welcome and it's exciting to me to feel that I am a building block in someone

else's dream.

So I'm happy to hear that I was, that my book was useful. It feels wonderful to me and I'm happy to meet you.

And do you, do you walk around with the awareness?

What does it, like, what does it feel like to walk around with the awareness of how many lives you've shifted in that way?

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