Hey, this is the moment. I'm Brian Coppelman. Thanks for listening. This is a really exciting thing for me.

I could not be a bigger fan of my guest, Shane McInale, whose name you probably know now,

even though Shane, when I first started asking you to do this, was before Songland and probably fewer people who listen to my show knew you and now you've become

almost as famous as your songs as you are clearly like the breakout star of

Songland the great reality show I've seen every every episode of

but Shane is known for having basically being the most successful modern country songwriter and I don't even like limiting it to that because yeah there you know in

Your music is every bit as out there as like Max Martin's music, but you are, you've written like 40 number one country records, co-written them, and have had an incredible story and I'm just so pleased that you're here to talk to me.

Thanks for doing this.

Well, thank you.

I honestly don't know originally.

You know, when we started sort of going back and forth on Twitter, I don't know how we originally sort of got

in touch because it is surprising to me that you knew me prior to Songland.

I mean, I appreciate that intro so much and I love being called the

breakout star of Songland. I'm definitely using that. I hope you'll say the same

thing when when you have Ryan Tedder on the show. But, yeah, I won't.

I was just, no, I'm saying you'll say it about me.

Oh, yes, oh sure, yes, guaranteed.

I was just so interested in everything I would see you post. I'm not particularly political or it was more about just your angle of things. I was just always like,

oh wait, this guy is really, I'm in line here with the humor in it and the way you see things and trying to bring things to light.

I just I really found like a I don't know like a common voice because you probably are much more educated in that world than I am, but you spoke

a language that someone like me could read and be like, yeah, that's what I mean mean so that means a lot to me dude that means a lot to me because

you always wonder when you engage in any of that stuff and when you're an artist just make it harangue. So thanks I appreciate it but but our kinship, the kinship that we have started, I was talking to my daughter about this man because I was wondering whether songwriters understand the extent of what they do, the power of it because for me, me you know I grew up the son of a song man my dad was a songwriter he wrote

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