The only thing we can be sure of about the future is that it will be absolutely fantastic.

Five, four, three, recording this episode, episode number 22, I believe, of the Arthur C. Clark Center for the Human Imagination Studies we do at UCSD.

It's one of the few if only a podcast in the UC system and we're

really delighted to have Gesslink and Leon because you really embody the the

living spirit of our prototype founder who namesake of the center, Arthur C. Clark,

and that you are one of the foremost science fiction authors who's also very well versed in in hard

science science fact as well as science fiction so welcome Annalee it's great to

have you here yeah thanks for having me so last week you're on campus down here

and you were participating in an event

called your dystopia has been canceled.

And this podcast was really supposed to be filmed last week

on the day that you were here in

San Diego but in addition to the dystopia your flight got canceled so just

it did yes

happens a lot for my audience where what actually happened and why we didn't get to to precede the event with the

podcast.

But nevertheless, you can find Anelie's entire lecture and presentation from the Clark Center filmed last week on our

YouTube channel Arthur C. Clark Center for Human Imagination. I want to introduce

Anna Lee just for the few of you who may not know who she is, quite renowned in many different circles and I think that's what your kind of poly mathematical nature is what really intrigued me about you.

Annalee Newitz writes science, fiction, and non-fiction.

She's the author of the novel Autonomous, nominated for the Nebula and Locust Awards.

And she won the Lambda Literary Award.

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