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Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Beyond 10,000 Hours (#021)

Into the Impossible With Brian Keating

Brian Keating

Physics, Natural Sciences, Science

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 6 March 2019

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary

On this episode, we explore physics, education, and what it takes to train imaginative scientists with Carl Wieman, Nobel Prize winning physicist with joint appointments as Professor of Physics and Professor in the Graduate School of Education at Stanford University. Dr. Wieman is interviewed by Brian Keating, UC San Diego Professor of Physics, Director of the Simons Observatory, and Associate Director of the Clarke Center. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

The only thing we can be sure of about the future is that it will be absolutely fantastic.

0:04.4

Five, four, three, two, one. all I'm. Hello and welcome to Into the Impossible, a podcast about how we imagine and how what we imagine shapes what we do.

0:26.1

From the Arthur C. Clark Center for Human Imagination at UC San Diego.

0:31.9

Today we're going to be speaking with Carl Wyman,

0:35.3

professor of physics and at the graduate school of education

0:38.5

at Stanford University.

0:40.6

In addition to doing research on atomic physics, he studies science education.

0:46.1

And so our associate director Brian Keating sat down to talk with him about creativity in science

0:52.2

and how one might teach imagination. I hope you enjoy it.

0:56.0

So just for the audio I always like to ask people if you were somebody comes up to you

1:00.5

and says I've got good news for you and bad news which do you want to hear first the good news are the bad news.

1:07.4

Are you asking? I'm asking you yes. No I'm not sure I have any bad news for you.

1:15.0

No, no, I'm saying if somebody tells you,

1:17.0

I have good news for you and bad news for you.

1:19.0

Which do you want to hear first?

1:20.0

You want to hear the bad news?

1:22.0

Okay. I've kind of gotten 50-50. I had Freeman

1:24.6

Dyson on last month and he said he wants to hear the good news because that'll soften the

1:29.7

below of any bad news that would come later. Well, I mean, probably this actually is governed by my work in education.

1:36.8

Oh, really?

1:37.8

Yeah, where it turns out negative feedback is much more useful for learning than positive feedback.

1:45.0

Right, right.

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