Parliament's back and so is Red Lions. This is episode three. It's about 12 minutes past three on a very busy Tuesday afternoon. We'd been hoping to talk about party conferences, their significance, those big leader interviews, but let's just say that as prurrogation didn't really happen, neither is our original podcast

really happening. It has been scrubbed and we had a blank sheet as Lady Hale referred to today

in her ruling. It's a bit of a live situation here. So we're slightly making it up as we go,

but we quite like that. The big picture

stuff needs to be our focus. Mark, it was a remarkable morning. I mean, give people a sense of

what it was like in our office, because there's lots of big things happen and we all stand around

the television watching, but I don't ever remember an occasion quite like that in our office.

Yeah, I mean, we were obviously, you're watching the proceedings of the Supreme Court.

There was Lady Hale and what has now become a famous giant spider brooch that she had on her dress there.

She was presenting this.

And you could see things were going badly, but from the government's point of view,

but the question was, would they really ultimately, if you like, stick the boot into the

government by actually not only saying that what the government had done was wrong, but then

proposing some kind of a remedy that would change everything. And yes they did it was really a complete knockout on

Boris Johnson and I can I just say mark from you know from a constitutional lawyers point of view

this was like the Champions League final I think from a Brexit point of view I'm really not that

excited because my view is that what parliament did before the non-prorogation as it now is was the important bit.

So Parliament basically said to the Prime Minister, if you don't get a deal by the time of the European Council,

then you're going to have to write the letter to the EU saying that we're not leaving without a deal on the 31st of October and we need more time.

And that to me is still the most important fact of the Brexit process at the moment.

The only thing I would say is I think there's an interplay between the two in as much as there

was all this publicity about would Boris Johnson actually keep to the letter that law?

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