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Red Lines

BBC

Government

4.478 Ratings

🗓️ 1 October 2019

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

Marmalade madness as Enda makes it to Belfast.

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0:00.0

Well, it's a red letter day on red lines. Just 30 sleeps to D day, if the Prime Minister Boris Johnson's to be believed. That is. We've had a glimpse behind the net curtains at the UK government's thinking on future customs arrangements. Got John Campbell, our economics and business editor, all of a dither last night. This was very interesting. This was RTE's Tony Connolly who broke the story and everybody piled in.

0:24.5

And then the Prime Minister basically ran a mile from it this morning and said,

0:29.2

it's all nonsense.

0:30.6

But it was a non-paper, to be fair to.

0:32.2

Yeah, yeah.

0:32.7

I didn't really get very involved in it last night, which I'm glad now because it's all

0:37.0

sort of calmed down a bit now. But we wait. The paper is due to be out, I think, on Thursday. Comment

0:43.9

statement on Wednesday. So the whole thing will become clear by the end of the week.

0:49.2

Did you get a sense that what we saw was a bit of a triumph of style over substance, that it gave us a bit of a

0:55.9

hint at the way the UK government, senior UK advisors, were thinking, but they weren't going to

1:02.5

follow through on this, were they? The idea of having customs posts, well, it would be illegal for

1:07.5

starters under the withdrawal agreement as it currently stands. And actually what some of the MPs have been probing at in the Commons earlier was to say,

1:15.9

well, what exactly would be illegal? Would it be illegal to have any new customs post no matter how far back from the border?

1:21.5

I think the bigger picture here is that we're into two very differing interpretations of what Brexit should mean.

1:27.9

So the Irish government, many in Northern Ireland, are saying that what was agreed in 2017 in the joint report,

1:33.9

which was kind of that interim agreement, was not only there would be no physical infrastructure in the border,

1:38.7

there would be no new checks or controls anywhere at all, that the status quo would maintain on the island of Ireland.

1:45.0

For many Brexit supporters, they say Theresa May was wrong to agree to that. It was unrealistic. If you're

1:50.0

having Brexit, the status quo was changing and that is going to mean some differences on

1:54.0

the island of Ireland. And that has been absolutely clear. That's the position of Boris Johnson.

1:58.0

The letter he wrote to Donald Tusk shortly after he became Prime Minister

2:01.5

only talked about not having checks and controls at the border, but left the door open to some forms of checks and controls somewhere else.

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