Jordan Stephens: ‘I had an appetite for self destruction’ (Encore)
How Do You Cope?
Significant Productions
4.9 • 868 Ratings
🗓️ 11 August 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
How do you recover from a breakup you feel is your fault?
John sits down with musician and writer Jordan Stephens, best known as one half of Rizzle Kicks, to talk about how his self-destructive behaviour led to infidelity and heartbreak.
Jordan opens up to John about how he set his life back on the right path by admitting his faults, accepting his ADHD diagnosis, and throwing himself into group therapy.
On Thursday in our bonus episode The Gratitude List, Jordan shares the 5 things that he is currently grateful for.
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| 0:00.0 | Wondery Plus subscribers can listen to episodes of How Do You Cope early and ad-free? |
| 0:04.7 | Join Wondry Plus in the Wondry app or on Apple Podcasts. |
| 0:12.2 | Hello, I'm Marina Hyde. |
| 0:13.9 | And I'm Richard Osmond. |
| 0:15.0 | And we are the hosts of The Rest is Entertainment. |
| 0:17.5 | Now, each week, Richard and I speak about our favourite entertainment news stories and incredible behind-the-scenes facts. In the last few weeks, we've looked at the |
| 0:24.2 | wild story of Noel Edmund's new Kiwi Hideaway, the ongoing Beckham family feud, and |
| 0:29.1 | is John Robbins the greatest stand-up of his generation? Or is it Ellis James? In our Thursday |
| 0:33.7 | questions and answers episode, we tell you the secrets of showbiz, including how they film Race Across the World, why prop mugs are always empty, and why new books |
| 0:42.4 | smell like that. |
| 0:44.1 | You can catch the rest is entertainment wherever you get your podcast or such. |
| 0:47.4 | The Rest is Entertainment on YouTube. |
| 0:49.5 | Back to John. |
| 1:02.4 | Hello. Hello everyone and welcome, how do you cope, the show that talks to very special guests and asks how they deal with life's challenges. I'm John Robbins. For the next two weeks, |
| 1:08.2 | we're going to be doing something a bit different and revisiting two of my favourite episodes of the series so far. |
| 1:13.6 | These are interviews that really stayed with me, and also you too, it appears, since they generated lots of emails and comments online. |
| 1:21.2 | I also know that a lot of you will have joined the show of the past couple of months and might not have caught all of the interviews from earlier in the series. So here's your chance to have a listen and catch up on episodes you may have missed out on. |
| 1:33.3 | This week, we're revisiting my chat with the musician and author Jordan Stevens. You'll also be |
| 1:38.4 | able to hear his gratitude list on Thursday. I found Jordan to be incredibly eloquent about his |
| 1:43.2 | own struggles, with both addiction |
| 1:44.9 | and ADHD, and I particularly enjoy talking to him about positive male role models and what |
| 1:50.3 | they should look like in the 21st century. If you're coming to this conversation fresh, |
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