show up as big as you want. That doesn't mean be who you are not, but that just means that

however you show up as excited and happy and jazz, everybody gets jazz about stuff,

and it shows in different ways. So just lean into that. imagination.

Anything is possible.

This is all imagination.

Hey guys, it's Kathy. Welcome back to the Kathy Heller Podcast. We have a great guest for you today and before we dive in, I just want to let you know.

Come on and follow me on Instagram at Kathy dot Heller because I'm about to announce something

and I'm so excited about it. I've been working on it non-stop. I'm so so thrilled to be bringing this to you.

I just can't wait. So if you want to be first to hear about it go

follow me on Instagram at Kathy. Heller and stick around on the podcast because I'll be

announcing it here very soon as well. So today my friend Jordan Gill is here. She's the founder of a brand called

Systems Save Me. She's also a podcast host and multi-million dollar business

mentor who has been working in the online space for almost a decade.

She has an awesome podcast, which is also called System Save Me,

where she takes you behind the scenes of how to build a successful business,

how to design a life with freedom,

and she shares strategies and prompts

for you to build a life first business too.

It's such a valuable resource so make sure that you go check it out.

Jordan was one of the first friends I made in the online business space and I'm grateful that I met her

and we became friends.

She was always so supportive, even at the beginning when I was figuring out what I was doing,

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