The episode you're about to listen to was released back when the mere Christians podcast was called the call to mastery

Now if you love mere Christians, you're still going to love these older episodes because the majority of each

conversation focuses on how the gospel influences the work of our guests. With that disclaimer out of the way, please enjoy the episode. Hey everybody welcome to the call to mastery. I'm Jordan Rayner. This is a

podcast for Christians who want to do exceptional work for the glory of God and the

good of others. Every week I bring you a conversation with a Christian

who's pursuing world-class mastery of their craft. We talk about their path to mastery,

their daily habits,

and how their faith influences, their work.

Today's guest is my friend John A.Cuff,

he's the New York Times best-selling author, Finish, Start, Do-over, and one of my all-time favorites stuff Christians like.

He's a great writer, maybe an even more exceptional speaker on stage. was named one of Inc magazine's top 100 leadership speakers on earth.

Guys, I promise this is going to be the funniest episode of the called master we've ever

produced. We talked about everything from Yani to Chris Pratt. We talked about the

three questions that John asks of every soundtrack that enters his brain.

All of this comes directly from his new terrific book,

Soundtracks, and we talked about what we're teaching our kids implicitly and explicitly

about work and how that's going to shape

their excitement and their ambition

to do great work in the future.

You guys are going to love this terrific episode with my friend John A Cove.

John A. John,

thanks for being here. Thanks for having me today.

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