John McWhorter – A New Agenda for Higher Ed?
The Glenn Show
Glenn Loury
4.8 • 2.3K Ratings
🗓️ 30 May 2025
⏱️ 61 minutes
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Summary
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0:00 Intro
1:25 The response to Glenn’s appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show
4:03 Are institutions like the University of Austin the future of higher ed?
11:31 Ground News ad
13:14 When social justice musicology came for John’s syllabus
17:42 What role should social justice play in academic study?
28:40 John’s trip to the National Museum of African American History and Culture
35:50 Will the museum survive Trump’s assault on DEI?
44:47 Are Glenn and John complicit in anti-DEI overreach?
55:30 The racial animus question in anti-DEI reform
Recorded on May 21, 2025
Links and Readings
Glenn’s recent appearance on Tucker Carlson’s show
The Chronicle of Higher Education’s interview with Glenn
Glenn’s forthcoming book, Self-Censorship
Glenn’s memoir, Late Admissions: Confessions of a Black Conservative
John’s conversation with actor Clifton Duncan
The BBC’s 1973 production of George Bernard Shaw’s Pygmalion, starring Lynn Redgrave and James Villiers
Khalil Gibran Muhammad’s book, The Condemnation of Blackness: Race, Crime, and the Making of Modern Urban America
Victor Herbert’s operetta, Babes in Toyland
John’s NYT piece on the Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture
Glenn’s conversation with Brown University student Alex Shieh
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| 0:00.0 | Please consider becoming a paid subscriber to the Glenn Show at glenlawry.substack.com. |
| 0:06.7 | As a subscriber, you will receive new episodes on Mondays instead of Fridays and get access to ticket pre-sales to live events, monthly Q&As with Glenn Laurie and John McWhorter, exclusive content, and other benefits. Thank you. |
| 0:23.4 | Hello, everyone. This is Glenn Lowry. I'm with John McWhorter. You are listening to and or |
| 0:29.5 | watching The Glenn Show. John and I talk every other week here at the Glenn Show. He teaches at |
| 0:35.4 | Columbia University, writes for The New York Times. |
| 0:39.7 | I am a soon-to-be emeritus professor of economics and the social sciences here at Brown University, |
| 0:48.1 | The Glenn Show. |
| 0:50.3 | So, hey, John, thanks for joining me. |
| 0:52.9 | Hi, Glenn. How are you? |
| 0:55.3 | I am busy. |
| 0:59.0 | I'm on my way out to the University of Austin in Austin, Texas to give a lecture and meet some people. |
| 1:08.2 | I am dealing with the aftermath of my appearance on Tucker Carlson's podcast, where I announced to the world that I'd broken relations with the Manhattan Institute. |
| 1:23.5 | That has generated some press. I've been interviewed. |
| 1:26.4 | I've noticed. |
| 1:27.1 | By this or that. |
| 1:28.7 | Party, The Chronicles of Higher Education, |
| 1:31.0 | has a piece on me that was just out yesterday, for example. |
| 1:35.1 | Oh. |
| 1:35.9 | Yeah, Evan Goldstein and his colleague, |
| 1:40.8 | whom I've talked with before at The Chronicles. |
| 1:42.9 | I have a book that's coming out, |
| 1:44.5 | a small book on self-censorship, |
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