John Mark McMillan: Faith & Doubt (#270)

Religion on the Mind

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Religion

4.7 • 542 Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2024

⏱️ 98 minutes

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Finally, a long chat with indie Christian musician John Mark McMillan! John Mark started out firmly in the mainstream Christian world but has been gradually exploring more complex and nuanced expressions of faith (and doubt!) through his art. We discussed his early life on a Christian commune, what it's like to be a recording artist wrestling with deep questions of faith and doubt, and whether a doubting faith is actually more faithful than one laced with certainty. We got into meaning-making, suffering, and the audacity of hope in an imperfect world. In other words, it was great. Watch this Episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/PcWpzObjGK4 John Mark's Website John Mark McMillan on Spotify Resources Mentioned: Hunting the Divine Fox: An Introduction to the Language of Theology Viktor Frankl's Book: A Man's Search for Meaning ___________________________________________ Get Tickets for Theology Beer Camp 2024 Use Code ReturnofYHP for $50 off your ticket! ___________________________________________ Follow Dan on IG: www.instagram.com/dancoke/ Or Twitter: twitter.com/DanKoch Faith deconstruction resources: www.soyouredeconstructing.com/ Edited by Josh Gilbert (joshgilbertmedia.com -- he is accepting more work!) Join the Patreon for exclusive episodes (and more) every month: patreon.com/dankoch Email about the "sliding scale" for the Patreon: youhavepermissionpodcast@gmail.com YHP Patron-only FB group: tinyurl.com/ycvbbf98 Website: www.dankochwords.com/yhp.html Join Dan's email list: www.dankochwords.com/ Artwork by sprungle.co/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	There is a garden in the void in the desert of space
0:09.0	A speck of blue dust and the vacuum of hate
0:15.0	So we drive to work, we walk our dogs, we make babies, we sing songs, and all along,
0:25.6	Are we sleep inside the miracle of it all?
0:30.6	Christ Jesus, would you think of us in your everlasting heart? Christ Jesus, would you dream us up up again when we're gone?
0:44.3	Christ Jesus, would you dream us up again?
0:49.3	When we're gone, when we're gone, when we're gone, Welcome back, everybody, to you have permission, the show that aims to take both Christianity
1:15.5	and the modern world of science and culture very seriously.
1:19.4	My name's Dan Koch.
1:20.5	I'm a licensed therapist and a post-evangelical liberal Christian, just living between the tension of faith and doubt every day. And you know
1:30.5	who else is doing that? My guest today, indie alternative folk Christian musician, something
1:37.9	in that world. John Mark McMillan. John, thanks for being here. Yes, thanks for having me on the podcast.
1:45.0	It's been a long time coming.
1:46.8	We began texting and occasionally speaking on the phone during lockdown about eventually
1:53.1	getting you on here.
1:54.3	And here we are, only about four years later.
1:56.6	No big deal.
1:57.8	I know.
1:58.7	It's crazy.
1:59.7	It's crazy that's been four years since the lockdown.
2:02.4	I know. It really is. I'd like it to, I'd like to just sort of forget about that part of my life.
2:07.6	Oh, yeah. So, ostensibly, we're doing another one of these still Christian episodes. But we're
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