Hello there, I'm Jenny Faulkner. Welcome to Run Pod, the Run Club of the podcast world, where runners

unite, all of them. I'm talking your super speedy Olympic sprinters to long-distance ultramaratheners

to those who are more inclined to have a gentle jog on a Sunday, 5K on a Saturday, or newbies who've taken up running

since lockdown. Or maybe you're someone who has been running for years but still doesn't

consider yourself a runner because you just do it? Well, that is today's guest. We've seen him

on question time. We've seen him on the news amongst other shows. And he's also been the host of

Mastermind for the last 18 years. Well, today, he's not the one posing the questions. He's answering

them. And his specialised subject, well, it's the joy of running, of course. Please welcome to

Run Pod, the one and only Mr. John Humphreys, hello. Hello, Jenny. I must start by telling this

story to anyone who is out there running because John, people run while they listen to Run Pod often.

I was at Smooth, which is where I work every morning doing the breakfast show, and you were

next door in the classic studio doing the breakfast show there and word got out that you were a runner so

I seized the opportunity as you will know and I accosted you and asked you to be a guest and you said

firstly it's impossible to talk about running for more than five minutes I did I did well am I running

anyway yeah yeah and then that's the other thing you said,

I'm not even a runner, really. I'm a plodder. Well, actually, I'm not even a plodder.

I've been looking for a word that fits, really, that suits my style of running. And I think it's probably stumble.

I am a stumbler.

That's to say, and you have to picture this,

you have to see this old Bardini's Park

or whatever I happen to be,

wearing my running gear,

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