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The Casey Adams Show

Joel Kocher: CEO and Co-Founder of Humann on The Super Molecule: Nitric Oxide's Life-Changing Impact

The Casey Adams Show

Listener.com Podcast Network

Entrepreneurship, Business

4.8634 Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2026

⏱️ 42 minutes

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Summary

Today on The Casey Adams Show, I sat down with Joel Kocher, founder and CEO of Humann. Before launching Humann, Joel served as President of Worldwide Marketing, Sales and Service at Dell, where he joined in 1987 when the company was doing $100M in revenue and helped scale it to $3.6B by 1994, becoming the #2 executive behind Michael Dell.

In this conversation, we get into Joel's journey from architecting Dell's explosive growth to founding Humann, why nitric oxide is the super molecule behind cardiovascular health and longevity, his legendary showdown with Steve Jobs at Power Computing, healthspan vs. lifespan, why paranoia is a survival tool in business, and how he balances endurance training and family with building companies.

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0:00.0

Welcome back to the Casey Adams show. Today I am joined by Joel Koher, the co-founder and CEO of

0:07.4

Human. Joel, thank you so much for coming to show today. Casey, I'm excited. Thanks for inviting me.

0:12.6

It's my pleasure to have you on today. You know, we were talking before. And in your words,

0:16.7

you know, you said, you're quite the unicorn. And I want to kind of start by saying, not only am I so impressed with your background,

0:23.9

but it's one of those stories that I'm so excited to dive into because, you know,

0:27.2

from being an executive at Dell to starting your company at 55 years old

0:31.4

after coming out of this Fortune 500 run of the century, if you will,

0:36.5

to actually building a supplement company that matters in a world

0:40.1

where there is so much as bad supplements, yours being clinically proven, having so many

0:45.5

aspects that make it so unique.

0:47.9

Excited for it.

0:48.6

And with that said, one of my favorite autobiographies is from Michael Dell, play a nice but win. And before we get into

0:56.6

the depths of human and nitric oxide and all the fun rabbitles will go down, your career journey,

1:04.4

what led to getting that opportunity to work for someone like Michael Dell? And where did this

1:10.4

hunger for executive

1:13.2

leadership stem from early on in your childhood? I'm not sure where it came from. I always,

1:21.6

throughout my entire life, have always seeked deeper meaning, you know, in my life, which I think in my earlier years,

1:31.1

well, maybe I was, I had no work experience. It was just wanting to do something meaningful,

1:37.4

you know, to make a mark somewhere. So I was fortunate. I'm lucky enough to become an executive in a Fortune 500 company before I ever joined Dell.

1:48.6

In fact, when I joined Dell, you'll love this.

1:52.4

The year before I joined Dell, $68 million in revenue.

1:58.2

That's it.

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