Hi, and welcome to Jesus Lover Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go. I'm Lisa Whittle,

and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray will be five minutes well-spent.

Day two of my two-day conversation with author Vicki Courtney today, and we're coming in hot. We talk about

that sometimes difficult dynamic moms and daughters can have, and Vicki speaks encouragement into that.

We even talk about something near and dear to my heart, having the Jesus Over Everything conversation

with your kids. Super fun to get into that for me. And yes, of course, we go light and fun with it all at the

end, so you don't want to miss some of that silliness we get into. Here we go with day two with

Vicki. So let's move into the five conversations you must have with your daughter. They're

actually the same five conversations you must have with your son that we talked about yesterday. And yet the subject

matter within each conversation is customized for females' unique needs and approach differently.

And I know myself, you and I have both raised boys and a girl. So we know that they have unique needs, even within those conversations.

Which of these conversations did you personally find the hardest to have with your daughter, Paige?

Oh, goodness. Okay. So that, I can see, I could answer instantly with my boys. But so Paige is unique in

that she, well, every mother thinks her children are unique, right?

So, but I say that because she was my easy teenager.

And so I felt like now she did go through that stage where, you know, that you turn a corner

for when you're, you know, when they're young,

it's like mom hung the moon and then all of a sudden one day you wake up and you realize

you're from the moon in regard to your. And so, you know, I know that's a hard transition

for moms when they get there. And I felt like I hung on a little bit longer to my daughter.

She was in a more sheltered environment. She went to a Christian school that was, it was like a

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