Hi, and welcome to Jesus Over Everything, a five-day-a-week variety show that mixes encouragement,

the Bible, practical how-toes, and fantastic guests for the listener on the go.

I'm Lisa Whittle, and I welcome you to just five minutes with me, which I trust and pray

will be five minutes well spent.

This is going to be a good one today, friends, and tomorrow, too, for that matter.

For two days, I have seasoned ministry

leader and bestselling author Vicky Courtney on the show to give us the absolute rundown on

all things conversation with our daughters and sons. Her books, five conversations you must have

with your daughter and five conversations you must have with your son, have been revised and

expanded and released back

out into the world for such a time as this. And they could not be more timely, in my opinion.

She and I have a great conversation ourselves about many things. She gives encouragement for

moms launching and raising older kids, helps us prep for those days with these important

conversations we need

to be having. And since she's a grandmother, I just had to ask her about why it is grandparents

lose their mind over the grandkids, it seems. So fun, so rich, such a vital show today and tomorrow.

So here we go with the important convos we need to be having with our young men.

So Vicki Courtney, when I think of you, I think of someone who has been at this ministry leadership,

writing, speaking, mothering thing for a while. Do you feel like the expert at this point or do we just put

that pressure on you? Oh goodness. No, I definitely have never felt like the expert and I think it's

helped along the way that I've tried to be really honest about even the, you know, just the hurdles

that my husband and I hit and raising our children and even with

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