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Music Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast.

I'm your host, Tim Miller.

Delighted to welcome a former United States Senator and Governor of West Virginia.

His new book, titled Dead Center in Defense of Common Sense. It's Joe Manson. How you doing, sir? Hey, Tim. Good. How about you? You know, it's been a fucking week, to be honest, but I'm doing okay. Got your book right here. Thank you. Thank you. Between this and the LSU game, give me something to distract myself with over the weekend.

I want to get to the news with you, but just really quick at the top, why did you decide to do this?

You don't have to do it. You could have just gone fishing, you know?

I know. It took about two years. This all came about during the 50-50 cent, the 117th Congress, when they were split down the middle.

Yeah.

Okay.

And I got thrown in a very high profile area because I was always been centrist. Yeah, right. And they all expect everybody, if you got a D by your name, whatever the Ds wants you do. If you got an R by your name, whatever they always want you do. well the Ds knew I didn't do what they wanted me to do for many, many years, so now they are really concerned. And how do you get through something like that? And I think it's basically on kind of where you were raised, how you were raised, and who raised you in and you never leave that. And that gives me the ability and strength to get through all that. All right. Well, I'm going to get into a couple of the passages from the book and talk to you about that.

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