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The Bulwark Podcast

Susan Rice: A Cancer in the Body Politic

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 September 2025

⏱️ 49 minutes

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Summary

This country has been dealing with an increase in political violence for nearly a decade, and leaders from across the spectrum need to do everything they can to get us off this terrible path. Declaring 'free speech for me and not for thee,' or getting random people fired for not saying nice things about Charlie Kirk isn't helping to tamp things down. Meanwhile, it looks like Trump is sacrificing U.S. national security interests with his corrupt TikTok and UAE deals, and Russia remains one of the only countries in the world Trump hasn't tariffed. Plus, Democrats must not roll over and play dead on the spending bill like they did in the spring.

Amb. Susan Rice joins Tim Miller.
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Hello and welcome to the Bullwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller.

0:37.5

Delighted to welcome back, former national security advisor and ambassador to the Unitedwark podcast. I'm your host Tim Miller. Delighted to welcome back, former National Security Advisor to the United Nations during the Obama administration and the chief

0:43.6

domestic policy advisor during the Biden administration at Susan Rice. How you doing?

0:48.6

Good to be with you, Tim. Good to be back.

0:51.0

Oh, man. We were talking to the green room. It's been a week. And we've got so much to go over

0:56.3

about what the Trump administration is up to. But I do just have to cover the latest in the Kirk

1:01.2

assassination here off the top. Authorities in Utah released some of the text messages between

1:07.5

the assassin and his transgender roommate slash girlfriend potentially.

1:14.8

And the killer said that he confessed and said he killed Charlie Kirk because he had enough of his hatred.

1:20.4

Some hate can't be negotiated out.

1:22.8

He said he planned it for about a week.

1:24.8

He also said that his dad had gone diehard maga and that upset him.

1:29.4

Obviously, there are other motives here as well. And, you know, these things, you know, when somebody

1:34.4

does something like that, they obviously have mental health issues they're dealing with. But it is

1:38.0

pretty straightforward as far as motive is concerned. I'm just wondering what your

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