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The Bulwark Podcast

Bill Kristol: What Does 'They' Mean?

The Bulwark Podcast

The Bulwark

Politics, News, News Commentary

4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 15 September 2025

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Summary

The administration is threatening to take away money and power—and maybe even freedom—from some vague Trump opponents because of the Kirk assassination. It doesn't seem to matter that elected Democrats have roundly condemned his murder. And it doesn't matter that Trump himself largely ignored the recent political assassination of Minnesota Democratic legislator Melissa Hortman and her husband. But anyone who is pro-assassination is a foe of The Bulwark. Full stop. A free country by definition must protect the right to self-expression. Plus, the giant nationalist march in London over the weekend, the latest stalling tactic on Russia sanctions, and the right of trans people to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.

Bill Kristol joins Tim Miller.

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0:51.3

I just wanted to talk to me and y'all for a little bit at the start here. We We get to Bill Crystal in a minute. There are a lot of things that were making me very angry over the weekend in the fallout from Charlie Kirk's assassination. Among them are the fact that I see almost nobody discussing the gun culture that this young man was steeped in and that has been ignored and

1:12.1

being considered irrelevant to this conversation for some reason.

1:15.1

I'm upset about how stupid the punditry is about the online subculture.

1:20.7

This killer was steeped in and we're going to be talking more about that this week.

1:25.5

I'm angry about the despicable attacks on trans people,

1:28.6

the incitements to civil war I've seen from prominent people on the right. Ted Cruz's

1:34.4

creepy AI slop tributes to Charlie Kirk, RFK, claiming Kirk was his soulmate. I could go on.

1:41.6

There's a lot pissing me off about how supposedly responsible leaders in the MAGA world have acted.

1:51.9

And I'm going to be covering all of that and more on this podcast and in the weeks ahead.

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