This is the Jocco Underground Podcast, this is number 105 sitting here with Echo

Charles. I just had a expanded edition of my book leadership strategy and

tactics come out, just came out. And one of the things I added into it was this

section on decision making and I gave a list of things to consider when you are

making a decision like pretty straightforward. These are the things you need to

think about. And I set it up, it's sort of like a loop. It's what I think about

when I have to make a decision, things like how much time I have, but laws of

combat leadership, your ego, your emotions, the strat, the strategic and tactical

mission objectives. These kind of things to consider and explain, of course, in

the book, why they're important, how you manage them. I talk about questions to

ask yourself. That will make sure that you're thinking about these topics from

an objective position. But at the end of this list, I make two very important

points about what you need to do to utilize this loop, but really it's beyond

that. It's things that there's two things that you need that we need to kind of

always do. These are like underlying principles that if you can adapt these to

not just decision making, yes, but just life in general, it's going to help you

out in a lot of different ways. The first one, you've probably heard, you've

definitely heard me say before, you have to be detached, right? When you're in a

problem, you can't see anything, you definitely can't see the solution. The

other thing when you're not detached is you can't even see the impact of the

decisions that you're making, right? Because you're in it. So you make a decision to

change something, but you can't oftentimes you can't really see the change from

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