This is the Jocco Underground Podcast number 55 with Echo Charles EC.

Yes, and me sitting here.

So I was on Sam Harris' podcast, like a long time ago now.

And we were supposed to do another one at some point, but we just haven't yet.

Anyways, on that podcast, we had a discussion about bravery and one of the things that he said,

which was a quote from somebody else.

I'm pretty sure.

You can't fake bravery.

You can't fake bravery.

So if there's a gunfight and there's a guy wounded in the street and there's gunfire everywhere,

and you run out to save that wounded guy and drag him to safety, you're brave.

You can't fake that.

Now, and it doesn't actually, it doesn't matter what you were thinking at that moment in time.

It doesn't matter if you were petrified and horrified.

It doesn't matter if you were just pushed out there by pure adrenaline.

It doesn't matter if you had given up on living.

You're like, I don't care.

I'm going to die anyways. I'm going to go.

Doesn't matter.

Doesn't matter.

You knew there was danger and you acted.

And you can't fake that.

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