This is Jockel Podcast number 338 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink, good evening,

echo. When I was teaching close quarters combat, which is, you know, going into rooms,

going into buildings and clearing rooms and clearing buildings, clearing hallways,

clearing stairwells, there's all kinds of things that a seal has to do correctly when

they do this. And there are a lot of rules, a lot of standard operating procedures that

you have to follow, how you enter the room, where your feet go, where you aim your weapon

and where you don't aim your weapon. How far you stay off the wall, what you say to

your shooting buddy when you need to move, what you, how you respond to your shooting

buddy when he needs to move. There's a bunch of verbal and nonverbal signals that you

give with your voice, with your weapon, with your posture, with your actions. You got

to know how to give those signals, you got to know how to receive those signals. And

then there's a bunch of calls that you actually make. And again, some of those calls you make

and you pass that word via verbal or other types of visual signals, when to move, where

to move, what to address in a, in a particular room or in a hallway or in a building, because

you got to prioritize an execute when you go into room, there's multiple things going

on. You got to figure out which ones are most important. One, you got to support your

shooting buddy at all times. That's cover and move. You got to do all this with simple

clear concise communication. You got to make sure that while you're doing all these things,

you're supporting the overall intent to the mission, which is decentralized command. So

there's a whole bunch of things going on when you're doing close quarters combat. And

when I taught this, there was, you know, we as instructor cadre would get really critical

about the actions that the guys entering the room made, because we wanted them to stay

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