Jocko Underground: Is Taking Weight-Loss Drugs "Cheating"?

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🗓️ 1 September 2025

⏱️ 11 minutes

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Weight loss drug and discipline

“Am I cheating myself by using a weight-loss drug?”

Belt test fees in jiu jitsu

“My new BJJ school charges $70 for a belt test—should I see this as a red flag?”

Discipline cycles vs. laziness

“How can I tell if I’m slipping into laziness when discipline wanes, and how do I stay truly on the path instead of lying to myself?”

Working at a nonprofit with doubts

“Is it moral or ethical to keep working for a nonprofit whose mission or practices I don’t fully believe in, even though I help vulnerable people every day?”

Leadership, influence, and ownership

“If I’m the only one who clearly sees a looming problem, how do I take ownership, persuade my team to act, and prevent failure without damaging relationships?”

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0:00.0	This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 180 sitting here with Echo Charles. We've got a bunch of
0:04.4	questions from you all. And we will try and answer those questions, give you some guidance,
0:09.9	give you some courses of actions to follow. And that's what we got. Let's get into it.
0:14.5	First question. I want to start by thanking you for a positive influence. In order of importance, I'm a father, long-term partner, and a site supervisor in a bio-gas plant.
0:27.2	I've recently started using terseptitide, a weight loss drug as I am classed as obese and have failed time and time again at losing weight.
0:37.1	I'm struggling with the feeling that I'm cheating, that I should have just persisted. I should have kept persisting and that I could have lost weight naturally as I have in the past. I live regularly, but have always struggled to control my eating habits. However, since starting, I've lost 12 pounds.
0:56.4	I have more energy to help out my partner at home. I'm less distracted at work and I no longer
1:02.3	focus on dieting and I'm about to restart Muay Thai and Jiu Jiu Jitsu training. Hell yeah. What are your
1:09.7	thoughts on this? Did I make the right decision to kickstart a positive movement or did I take the path of least resistance?
1:20.2	You know, first of all, like being obese is a medical problem.
1:25.1	And it causes all kinds of other medical problems.
1:28.0	And it'd be great if you could have done it without the drug.
1:31.1	But I'm assuming you've tried everything and you've still failed.
1:35.8	You might have some kind of metabolic condition and condition, right?
1:39.4	You might have some kind of thyroid things, some kind of slow metabolism.
1:42.7	Like, I don't know.
1:44.4	I don't know. I don't know.
1:47.2	But, you know, depending on how old you are, how actually obese you are, and what other
1:52.4	medical conditions you might have, dude, this might be a very good call at this juncture.
1:59.1	I know in the past, people would get medical surgeries to lose weight.
2:06.3	This seems like a much safer option than getting a surgery.
2:12.0	And, you know, you've got to figure people are having some real issues if they got to have a, like, a surgery.
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