This is the Jockel Underground podcast number 13 with Echo Charles and me, Jockel Willink.

Good evening.

Good evening.

All right.

So, I was in a house in Iraq in my first deployment to Iraq.

So, 2000, this was either 2003 or 2004.

And it was a small farmhouse out in the middle of nowhere.

I forget the full background of this scenario, but it was something like one of the elder

sons of this particular family had been mixed up in some kind of insurgent operations.

So, we're out there looking for this kid.

And by kid, I mean, you know, 25-year-old military age male, we raid this house looking

for this military age male.

And we get the building cleared and the guy wasn't there, but his family was there.

And so, we've got the interpreter and the interpreter is kind of talking to the family.

And there's some kids there.

And so, the guys are giving some, you know, candy to the kids and this kind of stuff, looking

around.

The house was basically one big room, but basically one big room.

And there was mattresses on the floor in one of the corners.

This is a real common over there for some of the people on the lower end of the economic

spectrum.

They would just sleep with mattresses on the floor.

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