This is the Jocko Underground podcast number 150 sitting here with Echo Charles.

Have some good questions from the troopers.

Yeah, yeah.

So let's get into it.

All right.

First question.

I found the practice of discipline easy to understand.

You have control over your actions.

You want to get fit.

You go to the gym. You want to eat clean. You go to the gym. You want to eat

clean. You only buy healthy food. The rub for me is on the emotional front. It's not as easy as the

practice of discipline. I can want to not let things affect me and just let them go, but the emotions

don't respond to my demands. I know getting butt-heard about my girlfriend's actions doesn't serve anything, but they still come.

I know that allowing resentment for my boss's toxicity won't help me, but there it is.

I'm pretty good at containing my reactions, at least to the extent I don't lash out, ever.

But what's the point of going through life all lit up with

triggers like a Christmas tree just to tell yourself, at least you're not outwardly reacting.

Specifically, what is actual, what's the actual process of not allowing yourself to be affected?

You know, that's good. I mean, mean first of all it's good that he's

recognizing that getting triggered is an emotional weakness and and and if you succumb to, it's not going to help you.

This is, this is actually, you told that story.

I think you read a book called Mind games.

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