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472: Avoiding the Pressure Won't Get You Anywhere. W/ Matt Hasby

Jocko Podcast

Jocko DEFCOR Network

Management, History, Business

4.831.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 January 2025

⏱️ 260 minutes

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Matt is a retired Navy SEAL, combat leader, and Leadership Instructor at Echelon Front with a distinguished 21-year career. He began at SEAL Team Three and was part of Task Unit Bruiser with Leif Babin and Jocko Willink. Matt's combat and training experiences honed his leadership skills, allowing him to rise through the SEAL ranks and collaborate with various special operations teams. After retiring, he earned an MBA from UCLA's Anderson School of Management and worked as a management consultant, where he applied and validated Echelon Front’s strategies in business.



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0:00.0

This is Jocko podcast number 472 with Echo Charles and me Jocko Willink. Good evening.

0:05.4

So we'd been in Ramadi for a little over a week, I would say. And we had gone a big chunk of guys from Tasking a bruiser. We'd gone over to Camp Corregor, which is on the east side of Ramadi with the first of the 506,

0:21.7

band of brothers.

0:23.5

And we're planning a big, giant operation, a battalion-sized, a battalion plus-sized operation.

0:30.4

And we're going to be there for a few days planning, and then we're going to conduct the

0:33.3

operation, we're going to go home.

0:34.1

But we'd been there for, so we'd been over in corregador for maybe like

0:37.9

a day or two or something like that and as soon as we got there camp corregor was under attack all the

0:43.9

time through mortars and indirect fire but also the surrounding area there'd be iEDs in place

0:50.2

there'd be rockets launched at the base and so so as soon as we got there, of course,

0:56.0

we had a bunch of snipers in TASCuna Bruiser.

0:58.0

So they have towers around the perimeter of Camp Corregador.

1:03.0

So we put snipers in the towers.

1:06.0

And pretty quickly, like a couple of seal snipers killed some insurgents, putting IDs in and whatnot.

1:15.6

And so that was like the first day we were there, the first 24 hours they were there.

1:19.1

So now we're there and now over talking to one of the company commanders, the Charlie Company commander, this guy, Gunfighter 6.

1:28.9

The guy's a total pro.

1:29.5

Just he's been in Ramadi, he's been fighting, he's been leading his troops.

1:33.9

They called him Crazy Joe, it's another nickname he had, but his call sign was Gunfighter 6.

1:38.2

I won't say his name right now, but hopefully I'll have him on the podcast at some point.

1:42.9

Just a great guy.

1:44.8

And his,

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