This is Jocco Podcast number 19 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink.

I want you to think about something and I want you to remember it.

And that is that these books that I review and go through, they're written by people, real people.

They're not movies.

And when you picture what's happening in the book, don't picture it as a movie.

Because we get inundated with so much imagery that we actually think the world is movies and television.

But these books, they're not movies, they're not television.

They're real.

And these things really happened.

They didn't happen on a screen or just in someone's mind and they weren't played by some actor.

And when I talk about the fear that a soldier in Grozny was feeling, it's not part of some script.

It isn't just a book, it's real.

That's a real person, a person who really had those thoughts and those fears.

And when I rattle off the figure of 800,000 tutsis killed by the Hutus and the Rwandan genocide, that's not just a number.

Those weren't extras in a movie.

They were people.

People like you and people like me, people with families and friends and hopes and dreams and jobs and lives.

People.

And so remember that now, as we join United States Marine Corps Recruit Chak Tatum, November 1943 at the Marine Corps Recruit Depot in San Diego, California.

Bayonet training was a new experience none of us would forget.

It was tough, rugged and required perfect physical conditioning.

After we read the Bayonet chapter in our guidebook, Corporal Leary, marched us to the training range along the shore of San Diego Bay to learn this lethal art of war.

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