This is Jocco Podcast number 18 with Echo Charles and me, Jocco Willink. Good evening echo.

Good evening.

He who fights with monsters should be careful, lest he thereby become a monster.

And if thou gaze long into the abyss, the abyss will also gaze into the...

So said Nietzsche.

And that is really what we're dealing with here in the world, in my world.

Fighting. Fighting against monsters.

And I'm talking about what goes on not only in the outside world,

and the evil that's there, but also in the world around us,

and also inside your head, inside my head. There's battles.

Battles that can be raging every minute of the day,

between strength and weakness, between the past and the future,

between good and evil, between light and dark, opposing forces,

battling against each other.

And we all see evil.

I mean, of course, there's those of us that have been to war,

where we see concentrated evil, but evils everywhere around us,

around everyone, disease and crime and murder and abuse and loss.

And there's predators out there.

And there's prey in nature and in humans.

And as I've said before, there's parts of the world where we've built a nice bubble,

where we can all but remove the evil,

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