Hello and welcome to Happy Place. The podcast that actively encourages you to

slow down a little bit. I'm giving you permission. I'm giving me permission. I'm

Fern cotton and today I'm incredibly excited to be chatting to the first

shaman we've ever had on the podcast. It's Joe Bulby. We have the intellectual

mind. We have the emotional mind and we have the heart mind, the soul mind and we

have the spiritual mind. The last two have just been ignored because in the

soul it's our imagination, it's a sense of stillness. Well a sense of stillness in

today's world equates to laziness. You know you've got to be doing. You know

doing a scene is good and when you have done something and you've achieved

something generally the next thing someone says to you is what are you going to do

next? Joe is a spiritual coach. She works with everyone from X Special Forces

soldiers to great thought leaders and recently me too. I'm not sure how I fit into

that list. I only met Joe a couple of months ago but really really loved

reading her book so thought should be a super interesting person to have on

Happy Place to share. How she helps people rediscover a more natural pace at a

time when we're also bloody chaotic and busy with the demands of everyday life.

Joe herself has learned from incredibly wise humans from Buddhist scholars in

India to medicine men and women in the Amazon rainforest and I absolutely love

talking to her about how we might be able to get back to valuing wisdom.

Waste them over intellect. They're different things as you'll find out.

This episode is brought to you by Samsung Galaxy Buds 2 Pro. I've been out

walking listening to lots of music recently. I've been listening to lots of the

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