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Ginger Dugger Volo grew up on TV. From the age of 10 until 27, she appeared on her family's hit TLC reality shows,

19 kids and counting and counting on.

She's an author, and we're gonna talk with her today

about a recent book that she wrote.

She now lives in Los Angeles with her husband,

Jeremy and their two daughters,

and Jeremy's gonna join us in just a minute.

Ginger, thanks so much for coming on takeaways.

Thank you so much for having me, Kirk.

So much has gone on in your life, and I've been reading about this in your book, and I want to talk to you all about it because it's absolutely fascinating. Love your family, by the way. You've got to tell your parents that we said hello. We don't have 19, but we've got six, so we're getting there.

We're getting there.

But your book is called Becoming Friends. your parents that we said hello. We don't have 19, but we've got six, so we're getting there.

We're getting there. But your book is called Becoming Free Indeed, My Story of Disentangling

Faith from Fear. Now, because of your show, people knew that you were part of a very large,

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