4.6 • 757 Ratings
🗓️ 31 January 2023
⏱️ 28 minutes
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0:00.0 | The crowd is here clearly to see Danny Moses and Jim Channos. |
0:05.0 | Definitely not me and Dan, but thanks for joining us everyone. |
0:09.0 | Dan and I do a show each day at 1 o'clock, we call it Market Call. |
0:12.0 | So this is a special edition of Market Call with Danny Moses and Jim Channis. |
0:16.0 | So thank you, and we'll get right into it, Jim. |
0:19.0 | The macro backdrop, I mean, given everything we've seen, given where rates were, where rates |
0:23.3 | are now, I just had a panel with Mike Novagrats, who's Mike and I, and we talked about, |
0:28.3 | this is one of the more confusing backdrops we've seen, and I say that because if you're |
0:32.3 | bullish, there's something for you, if you're bearish, there's clearly something for you. And the market's sort of trying |
0:38.8 | to figure it all out right in front of our eyes. What are your thoughts just sort of on the |
0:42.2 | macro level? I might take a little issue with the markets trying to sort it all out, or the |
0:48.8 | market's confused. I think the market is pretty excited. I mean, I said last night, Nirvana. And if you think about it, |
0:59.6 | the market is priced in based on forward-looking stuff. The reality that Goldilocks is pretty |
1:05.9 | much a certainty, right? I mean, earnings are supposed to be up 12% this year in the S&P. |
1:12.3 | Forward look on inflation is between 2 and 3%. |
1:15.4 | And the market is assuming the Fed's going to be easing at some point within the next year. |
1:21.8 | That's all pretty, you know, I think that's all pretty bullish. |
1:25.3 | Now, whether it's right or not correct, it remains to be seen. |
1:28.5 | Marco Kalanavik from JP Morgan, he's actually said that at current levels, Jim, |
1:33.5 | the market is pricing in this sort of soft landing goalie-lock scenario. |
1:37.6 | It sounds like if I'm listening to you, you'd think it's a bit of a pipe dream here. |
1:42.0 | Well, I mean, I think it's going to be, it might be difficult for all three of those things to happen, and none of them might happen. |
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